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Sport TV pundits vs. coaches (Gary Neville)
tuan_jinn 11 days ago Edited
Manchester United, Netherlands 153 5289

It's a silly but very relevant topic to talk about :D.

I saw Gary Neville's commenting and slamming Mourinho's tactic in recent games, as well as how Mou had to deliver in the next season after everything he had spent.

I love Gary, but lolz... you know... just a bit banter here

I was thinking..., comon, you are the least person to talk about delivering and tactic or reading game :D:D:D, everything is easier said than done.

After all brilliant analysis on TV, Gary's campaign in Spain was a total disaster. Completely clueless and lack of everything. :D So it's a bit weird now to listen to his analysis. :D RIGHT?

This is noway to say what he said was wrong, he made a lot of senses, and I agree with almost everything he said about Mou, about the lack of leadership in the back, how disorganize Manchester United was... but lolllz... And I understand he needs to make a living too, but may be something else in the mean time so we can forget about his Valencia's adventure. :D I have this feeling for all the current Dutch coaches too, it's funny.

I still like him though. What do you think? Pundit vs. Coach?

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Marcus2011 11 days ago
Chelsea FC, England 244 4901

He lost a lot of credibility after his awful spell at Valencia. Holly sh*t! It was a risk he took but he will bounce back because it is still fresh on the back of the minds. People have forgotten about Graem Souness, Rud Gulit and many other pundits attempts who had a terrible spells. However, for now Gary will need to sit back and take all the mockery because that is the rules of humanity to back your talk with action and if you can't then don't ever let anyone know that you can't!

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raimondo90 11 days ago
Valencia, Argentina 87 2163

It's not the only thing he's targeted a manager for. Recently he went after Pep for not calling a 7th sub. The main argument was that he should have called an academy player but Pep said that injuries to the first team and the under 23 team had played the day before so he had no other player to bring as the extra sub. The under 18 player were available but Pep would not call on them unless they were ready, regardless if they played or not.

So the debate broke down to giving a kid a spot on the bench just to fill the list even if he won't play vs a player has to earn the right to be called to the game and not receive a hand out.

Neville can surely analyze a match from a pundits position with play back and heat maps etc, but when he was in charge he had 0 clue how or what to do.

I hear he might be Miamis first manager after Beckham finally got his team.

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Golazo111 11 days ago
Chelsea, Mexico 53 1953

Gary is doing his job he doesn't need to be a good coach in order to talk about football, that's like saying Mourinho shouldn't be a coach because he wasn't a good football player.

Yes he didn't do anything good in Valencia but that's not his job anymore, it's like Scholes saying that Pogba isn't playing well and Mourinho says that if Scholes gets to be 25% of the coach he is he will do good, it's a very petty way to see things and it doesn't address what the person is talking about.

It's how Mourinho talks to people and now the fans also apply his toxic attitude, like when Owen was saying that Ibrahimovic isn't doing enough and Mourinho's response was to point out how Ibrahimovic scored more than Owen while in Manchester United, you know that fact doesn't really matter in regards of what a person is talking about it really shows how toxic a conversation can be with bitter people and honestly Mourinho has been bitter since his time in Real Madrid.

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Marcus2011 11 days ago Edited
Chelsea FC, England 244 4901

It is like University academics. Most often in business schools, you will have a teacher that will teach you economics perhaps but most likely not quiet good in applying them if he was given the job to fix countries economy. We could sit in class and take a part what strategies were wronlgy implemented by the company ( AFTER THEY MADE THEIR MISTAKES) and we would be wise and all knowing but if we were asked to come up with strategies for real company then we would flunk. It is the paradox that is at the same time depends on many factors. Again we know the rules and understand mistakes and what could have been done AFTER the game is over and after actions of the manager but if we are asked to be sitting there on the bench under pressure and do quick strategy to stop Barcelona from raping your team then we will be exposed as complete frauds and football idiots.

Therefore, these are two different things. Like Golazo said Neville has his job and he is doing it just fine if not excellent but he completely failed at the actual managing job because of being naive and arrogant with his limited theory knowledge.

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tuan_jinn 11 days ago
Manchester United, Netherlands 153 5289

I forgot to mention that (i have actually have that text edited) which is exactly like what you guys said: its just a funny feeling, other than that its perfectly normal for a failed coach to talk about football and analyze football. As long as he makes sense, which he did very much.

To be a succesful coach it takes more than that.

However the whole point is: to criticise a coach in certain position, it's better to be in that position
With at least some success. (or not at all)

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Marcus2011 11 days ago
Chelsea FC, England 244 4901

Agree, criticizing manager is one thing but analyzing the game is another. They should draw the line there because managers do get upset. These opinions by pundits are widely watched by fans who later draw bias subjected conclusions on the managers.

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tiki_taka 5 days ago
Barcelona, France 327 8390

I barely listen to English pundits but yes, his short career as a coach took a lot of credibility from his critics... imo he cannot criticize coaches anymore...

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tuan_jinn 4 days ago
Manchester United, Netherlands 153 5289

to you both: please stop! I will delete your comments

@golazo: that was a pure attack to Tiki out of nowhere! Do you want to start a war every time? Take this as a warning.

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Golazo111 4 days ago
Chelsea, Mexico 53 1953

Out of nowhere? He trash talks all time time like the biggest designated hater on the forum and then says that Neville has no credibility to critisize, the irony is rich...
How naive can you get as a moderator I wonder xD

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Emobot7 4 days ago Edited
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@Golazo We know you don't get along with Tiki but you don't need to start trouble as soon as he say something in a topic which you don't agree with. If you feel he is hating, ignore him and if he goes too far, we, the moderator team will take action. Please have more faith and patience mate. ;)

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@Golazo We know you don't get along with Tiki but you don't need to start shit as soon as he say something in a topic which you don't agree with. If you feel he is hating, ignore him and if he goes too far, we, the moderator team will take action. Please have more faith and patience mate. ;)

tiki_taka 3 days ago
Barcelona, France 327 8390

When you take 7-0 in a league game and you get sacked that way... it’s complicated to point world class coaches mistakes... as simple as that. There is no hating on it. Never listened to him anyway, because I watch PL in SFR sport, with Emmanuel Petit and Franck Lebœuf as game analysts, other leagues in Bein sport with Luis Fernandez, Omar Dafonseca, Sony Anderson as game analysts. And practically I only look into Spanish pundits on internet because they have informations on matters inside the club.
And again it’s not because I hate England kid, I just have my preferences...

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Golazo111 3 days ago
Chelsea, Mexico 53 1953

@Emo read my post again xD

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amir_keal 3 days ago
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Lol I bash Wenger all the time, imagine me as manager.

I'd pay to see Martin Keown manage a team. This guy has top notch passion.

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tuan_jinn 2 days ago Edited
Manchester United, Netherlands 153 5289

@Golazo: stop being such a toxic guy and take the hint. YOu can be as active as you are but, if every conversation against you ended up in head scratching or wall banging it's not cool.

In this particular little thread, you out of no where, completely off topic attacked on tiki, without any relevant to the discussion. if you fail to realize that, then talking to you is a waste of time.

Take the warning seriously please!

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@Golazo: stop being such a toxic guy and take the hint. YOu can be as active as you are but, if every conversation against you ended up in head scratching or wall banging it's not cool.

Take the warning seriously please!