Pot 1 and Pot 4 are relatively easy comparing to last years and Pot 2 probably the hardest one ever.

Who would you want in your group?

I personally want Qarabağ from pot 4. Short travel and another Turkish team. To qualify I'd like the most logical ones from 1 and 2: Moskow and Porto-Sevilla. Everyone except Real Madrid and PSG.

24/08/17 18:00CET : Group stage draw
12–13/09/17: Group stage, matchday one
26–27/09/17: Group stage, matchday two
17–18/10/17: Group stage, matchday three
31/10/17–01/11/17: Group stage, matchday four
21–22/11/17: Group stage, matchday five
05–06/12/17: Group stage, matchday six

11/12/17: Round of 16 draw
13–14/02/18 and 20–21/02/18: Round of 16, first leg
06–07/03/18 and 13–14/03/18: Round of 16, second leg

16/03/18: Quarter-final draw
03–04/04/18: Quarter-finals, first leg
10–11/04/18: Quarter-finals, second leg

13/04/18: Semi-final and final draw
24–25/04/18: Semi-finals, first leg
01–02/05/18: Semi-finals, second leg

26/05/18: Final (NSK Olimpiyski, Kyiv)

Marcus2011

Actually it felt much better last year, so many quality teams and not mediocre teams. Look at Maribor, Apoel, two Moscow teams, Qarabag, Celtic and not to mention Chelsea.

@amir

Although I understand your resentment towards Chelsea, I must remind that the team that looses 5-0 6-0 to big teams on regular occasions belongs to the defenition of mediocre.

@Marcus2011 @Amir Ok, lads, why don't we all calm down and stop using ugly word like mediocre for now.

Marcus2011

And that surely is not Arsenal as you think it is. Your board tried to sign our reject player. But the pony wanted to stay as he didn't want more failure lol.

These are the worst insults I've ever seen. Stop embarrassing yourselves, lads.

it's not a good time to start a war if you're an arsenal fan mate..

Imagine calling the current premier league champions failure and mediocre...... meh

Maribor, Apoel and Qarabag are mediocre I'd say...Moscow teams are a little better but I'm pretty sure that saying Chelsea is mediocre just because they are a rival club that you don't like should be classed as trolling!

JuanMata10+ quikzyyy

These aren't insults of any sort, nor is this a war.

Chelsea8

Imagine calling the current FA cup champions failure and mediocre...... meh.

Marcus2011

Let's just end this saga. Too many people commenting now, and it's classified trolling by United fans.

Oh and congrats for winning game 1. Very good goal from Zappacosta. However Atleti and Roma are the big tests of your group.

Mate enjoy europa league, i remember you insulting my mother a while ago for no reason and you haven't changed one bit.
Joze got banned for not respecting other members and trolling, hope everyone else gets a fair punishment.

Chelsea fans are getting salty so I won't comment about them good or bad so they don't get salty.

so many quality teams and not mediocre teams. Look at Maribor, Apoel, two Moscow teams, Qarabag, Celtic and not to mention Chelsea.

So how is Chelsea comparable to Apoel and Celtic exactly when talking about mediocre teams?

I don't see any logic and I doubt that you will ever be able to justify what you said there lol but I remember some Arsenal fan saying that last season it was better to lose 10:2 as Arsenal compared to losing 6:5 as PSG so it must be some desperation that causes such leaps of abyss into those statements...

Us chelsea fans getting salty doesn't change the fact that you are a troll.

K guys, enough with that, lets stay on topic from now on or else I'll close the thread.

So 30 goals yesterday? can we beat that today? :p Lots of good games to watch, Liverpool-Sevilla, Tottenham-Borussia, Leipzig-Monaco, but I'll prob only watch the Madrid game :(

@Yvan A lots of surprise today, Liverpool drawing at home, Napoli losing, Besiktas fine win at Porto (cheers Emrecan!) and Tottenham winning at Wembley. :U

There is a fine line between bantering and trolling.

I think all the games so far have been entertaining. Very good CL week. I was surprised how well Besiktas beat Porto at their own ground. I wasn't expecting Sevilla to pull a draw against rampant Liverpool but then again it's Liverpool we are talking about who will trash Arsenal with clean sheet and then give away victory in CL against lower standards team.

United also looked mighty strong and I read that Mourinho wasn't happy. After watching highlights I can understand why.

Ronaldo isn't slowing down. Guy is a beast.

Barcelona and Messi had torn mighty Juve defense apart but then again it isn't same defense they faced last year.

I was super pleased with Chelsea's performance. Great rehearsal before arsenal match in EPL.

PSG look just so sexy and they are real deal this year even though Celtic is no longer former self, PSG had shown world class football especially Neymar.

Surprise of the week was Napoli loosing.

@Emo yea, totally wasn't expecting Napoli or Porto to lose tbh. All English teams put up good performances and it's gonna be interesting when we get to play against Tottenham at the mighty Wembley :) Doesn't get much better than that.

Didn't really watch the PSG game, but it was an expected result. Their big test will be next fixture against Bayern, who don't seem to be doing too well atm.

@Yvan21 All I can say bout PSG is that their attack is really scary now. A single mistake and it could all be over for any defense. :U

@Emo for sure, but it isn't better than what MSN was and they weren't able to score against Juve's defense from last season. So it will be interesting to see how well "MCN" does against a well organized defense.