*conte retard

Us EPL teams have dominated before but times change. RM and Barca may fade. Barca seem to be in a big transition period. Many players not fitting the position, new manager, Messi getting older, Neymar and Suarez aren't 100% gonna stay there their career. Barca's youth may not be ready to fill these gaps too. RM have a plethora of talent and seem like they are set up post-Ronaldo era. EPL teams seem to be just trying to get back into a more stable form. United (my team) have had their prime days but seem like the youth are coming in and could shift the tides in European football. It's crazy experiencing cycles within the football world when you grow up!

yes, as the saying goes, every dog has his day, before it was italian , then english ,german now spain.

not to mention countless offside goals, dives and handballs/fouls inside penalty area .... but still most people said Barcelona disgrace because Atyekin give penalty on diving, barca disgrace thing is only diving (which very hard to detected if contacted) , but Real madrid have support of Ref in many different forms and types ... i see no different than Barca who play less disgraceful in 2009-12 , so real madrid fans should know now ref is human too who make mistake ....

I agree man, Real were the better team. Don't know what happened to Juve second half, I thought they played really well first half and we were in for a really good game. Casemiro got very lucky with the goal but it's football it happens. After that Real ran riot, the midfield 3 were fantastic.

You have to expect the Ramos hate though. You are right, that didn't win the game for you. But that was absolutely pathetic on his part and it's not the first time he's done things like that. He should be ashamed of himself. I think where the hate comes from is not towards Real Madrid but more to cheats and specifically cheats that end up with trophies at the end of it. Especially as they never seem to get punished for it.

The first goal from Ronaldo was so slightly deflected that you could not even call it deflection. It would be goal even without the super micro-deflection so that is no excuse. The only deflection was Casemiro's. Real Madrid outclassed Juventus in every way.

Buffon would have saved it, his name is Gigi for crying out loud. No argument! :)

Maybe, but that's down to Juve's defence. Their main asset. Ronaldo should never have an inch to shoot in the Box against Juve... Those back 3 and Gigi... yet he scored 2 from decent angles. This is why Ronaldo is amazing at his new found game. He finds space that doesn't exist vs teams that don't allow space. Barca couldn't do what Ronaldo did in like 20 mins. I say ronaldo I really mean RM in general. They were too unpredictable. RM were focused beyond belief when I thought they'd bottle it and Juve would win, but they really have found mental strength behind ZZ. Juve didn't have this strength at all this game it was rare to see it. These deflections are excuses. A good team would say, 'why didn't we score more?' 'why did we let them shoot' 'why was he able to pass to him?'. And improve.

@theLamb 10-2 keep your opinions to yourself nobody gives a shit about your opinions idiot Madrid totally outclassed Juventus Second Half. 1st half was even but second Real Played the best football.

Sometimes u need luck in football to win. Real got twice to get lucky to have the lead in this Finals. But Juventus should have kept their focus but i don't blame them. cuz i cant imagine how frustrating it is to get behind by 2 goals and both deflected. Before both goals. Juventus had a solid defend Real had ZERO clear shots on target but yeh. still mad at this lose tbh.

There are many ways to look at it. Deflections may be luck. But you create your own luck. Ronald's first goal was from an amazing counter and everything was precise, shot was still a decent shot and they made the space to shoot in the box so casually vs the best defence in the World. That's not luck. Casemiro again they pressed Juve into their own box and when the ball came out. Casemiro had plenty of space to run for a while to hit it hard. Deflection hurt them yes, but RM had full control on the pitch on many levels. Juve struggled to even attack RM in the second half. RM were on another level to every team this year.

Ramos played dirty but that could have been a red for aggression anyway. No one wants to see it but it was minor this game. RM were far beyond Juve.

The first goal from Ronaldo was so slightly deflected that you could not even call it deflection. It would be goal even without the super micro-deflection so that is no excuse. The only deflection was Casemiro's. Real Madrid outclassed Juventus in every way. Keep crying.

1. I'm not crying I couldn't care less... Just stating I think it was an ugly match and I'd like to see the season end with a great match. But that actually rarely ever happens, so yeah...
2. Plus I agree luck is created rather than 'random', like LoveKavi said... But Quadrado was like 'move a bit I wanna get to the ball', not even a shuv! might have stepped on him accidentally, without the reaction it's never a yellow nor a red. There was no aggression. So I wouldn't say real outclassed Juve in any way.
They could have, but they didn't and they won anways. That's football

Yeah @thelamb fair enough. I honestly think it was even but the half-time talk from ZZ changed it. It wasn't a talent issue or whatever. It was pure mental game after that. RM had a lot of pressure, best team in the World, amazing players, top form, already CL champions and no one has won the CL back to back. But somehow they changed their game into a pure dominant way in the 2nd half and finished it off. Ramos was dirty and to be honest I think he was doing it for the team more. That dirty play should be frowned upon. By even RM fans. Even barca fans seeing it screaming and shouting should hate their players for doing equivalent stuff. This attitude should never be in this game, regardless if it's your team or not. In the World Cup people do similar things. Crazy what'd you do for glory.

I love how ZZ has introduced young players with experienced players and switched it up a lot. He has prepared for the future well. After CR7 goes, as long as they have a big boy goal scorer they will thrive.

it was Benitez who trained all young player like Casemiro, Vasquez , esensio, Jese, Nacho ... im not sarcastic here pls this is real, zidane only continue train them, it was Benitez who promote them except Casemiro and Vasquez who were bought,

1.Casemiro and nacho was mostly benched by benitez
2.vasquez was originally real madrid player but he was loaned
3.asensio were not even on the squad when benitez reign as manager
4.jese wasnt that good.

benitez did nothing. lool.

ok now repeat it without crying

I can't bro. still crying. Too much passion not to cry about this finals lose :(.

Lucky win is rubbish. Juve struggled. Best defence conceded so easily. RM were walking into their box with simple passes. Juve had 0 chance to beat RM once they brought the RM dominance attitude to the game. deflected goals etc.. is rubbish and an excuse. Sir Alex would kick you off the team for making excuses like that. He'd say it's your fault as a defender for allowing them to shoot in the first place. RM knew Juve had an amazing defensive record this campaign so they took their chances but exploiting their weaknesses. ZZ slaughtered Juve on Saturday. Juve couldn't prevent the deflected shots because they were always one step behind in every position on the field.

Wasn't luck. It was a tactical mistake by Allegri in the 2nd Half.

- Juventus Fan

fucking clown lmfao its ok to cry but stop making up shit imbecile fuck.

lmfao. little kids think they know shit. How is it not lucky when u play 45 min and Real Madrid gets 1 shot and its get them the lead by a deflected shot. how is it not fucking lucky when They get their second shot from 30 m away and another deflected shot to get another lead. pls save me ur bullshit idiots.

@lovekavi. Look u retard. u can go suck fergusons dick. But if u and ur shitty united eyes can't see the difference between 2 deflected shots that surprised the defense and the GK then ur an idiot. Thats just the luck they had with it. Just save me ur faking time. Sometimes u need that kind of luck in football. Don't tell me that wasnt lucky lmao. two times Real get the lead in finals by 2 deflected shots and 60 min of play time they only had 2 shots on target LOL. That is frustrating for Juventus as a team getting behind 2 times like that. It's even harder against a team like Real Madrid to get behind TWO times like that. Juventus lost in second half after such shitty luck to get another lead.

@ bluejevad haha do u really want me to make u look like an imbecile? Wait i'll let u do that to yourself. Go check the Finals again from Zero to 60 min and comeback with that SS again and see how foolish u will look.

suprise deflection? They allowed RM to shoot so many times. Look at the stats. Ronaldo's first goal was deflected so slightly. But funny thing is. Against the 'best' defence in the World, Ronaldo walked into the box almost where the penalty spot is and shot with no defender on him. How is that possible vs that defence. That's not luck. That's precision. Hence why Juve lost. They struggled to do what RM did... CREATE CHANCES!

Are you serious now? Real was nowhere as offensive or dangerous as Juventus in the 1st half. Seriously da heck u talking about?? Let me go in more details for u about Ronaldo in 1st half. He was 80% more on the ground eating grass and begging for FreeKicks then being in the box creating a clear shot. I am with you that at the 1st goal he shouldnt have had such freedom in the box. But it was very nice counter attack of Real pulled off because Dani alves and Dybala had a bad chemistry 1 min before the goal. Now what im talking about is the shot he released and how it surprised Buffon. it was the very 1st shot of Real the very 1st counter and the very first time Ronaldo had so much freedom in the Box. and he scored because that slight deflection was a huge surprise for Buffon.that aint luck?

Well i still think they made their own luck to score that goal. Bad chemistry from Dybala and Alves isn't allowed in a CL Final vs the current CL champions at the time. You can't afford to let them opposition have 1 chance on goal. No shots. Nothing. That's Juve's style, shut the oponent down till they are useless, hence how Barca with the supposed best front 3 in the World were useless over 2 games. It took RM a precise quick counter to score that goal so early on. Juve weren't 100% or maybe they would have won or the game would have been different. RM were on top form mentally. In the end, Juve weren't 100% and maybe the pressure got to them. In the end I would never say it's luck. Blaming it on luck is for weak teams. Champions score more than their opponents. Think of it with no bias.

cry me a river! fino alla fine, furti e rapine.

No one is champoin with fear and not taking risks, Juve should adventured more.

@francisa they adventured in the first half by playing one touch football with high intensity and then payed it cash in second half, it was impossible to maintain it for the entire game