In this thread we'll talk about who'll win the EPL. Opinions, form, expectations and odds change over the season and I'll post updated odds every now and then. Who knows, maybe one day there'll be another 3000 times the money champion.

Current odds of EPL winners: City @ 2.87, United @ 4,50, Chelsea @ 4,50, Spurs @ 10, Arsenal @ 12, Pool @ 13.

Odds from 2 weeks ago (pretty much the same). City @ 2,87, United @ 4,33, Chelsea @ 4,50, Spurs @ 10, Arsenal @ 12, Pool @ 13.

-Next odds update after the transfer window is shut.

@emo odds are funny in that way, but it's fauirly easy to explain. Let's say EPL has 6 serious title contendes and that they all would have the same chance of winning the EPL. Each team would have odds of 6 times the money right? Addign to that most gambling sites have a win margin so the odds changes according tohow people bet but overall the pay out i usually around 95%. That means that bookings would probably give an odds of around 5,7 for any given team of the 6, although the real odds should be 6. Ok? Alright. Now imagine that one of the team is slighlty better and one of the teams is slightly worse. City are by many considered favorites for 2017/20178 while Spurs will play away from white hart lane all the season. So, if City are considered 50% more likely to win the EPL trophy compariing to Spurs (which would be fair) the odds would change dramatically too. Spurs wud now have 9 times the money and City 4 times the money (6 *1.5 and 6/1.5).

Converting real odds to probability, City's odds of 2.87 equals a wining probability of 34,8%. Because 1 (100%) / 2.87 = 0,348. Given that pundits usaully pay out around 95% the real probability (at this time) according to experts is (0,348/95)*100=0,366 or 36,6%.

For Spurs that means they're given 10,5% chance of winning.

Now, this doesn't sound like much but given that ther is around 6 teams that can potentially compete for the title and City etc argually being favorites for a reason.. well, it's pretty fair.

@emo odds are funny in that way, but it's fairly easy to explain. Let's say EPL has 6 serious title contenders and that they all would have the same chance of winning the EPL. Each team would have odds of 6 times the money right? Addin to that, most bookies apply a win margin so the odds changes according to how people bet, but overall the pay out usually is around 95% (sometimes a bit higher). That means that bookies would probably give an odds of around 5,7 for any given team of the 6, although the real odds should be 6. Ok? Alright. Now imagine that one of the team is slighlty better and one of the teams is slightly worse. City are by many considered favorites for 2017/2018 while Spurs will play away from white hart lane all the season and is generally considered less of a favorite to win EPL this year. So, if City are considered 50% more likely to win the EPL trophy when comparing to Spurs (which would be fair), the odds would change dramatically too. Spurs would now have 9 times the money and City 4 times the money (6 *1.5 and 6/1.5).

Converting real odds to probability, City's odds of 2.87 equals a winning probability of 34,8%. Because 1 (100%) / 2.87 = 0,348. Given that pundits usaully pay out around 95% the real probability (at this time) according to experts is (0,348/95)*100=0,366 or 36,6%.

For Spurs that means they're given 10,5% chance of winning.

Now, this doesn't sound like much but given that ther is around 6 teams that can potentially compete for the title and City etc argually being favorites for a reason.. well, it's pretty fair.

@emo odds are funny in that way, but it's fairly easy to explain. Let's say EPL has 6 serious title contenders and that they all would have the same chance of winning the EPL. Each team would have odds of 6 times the money right? However, adding to that, most bookies apply a win margin so the odds changes according to how people bet, but overall the pay out usually is around 95% (sometimes a bit higher). That means that bookies would probably give an odds of around 5,7 for any given team of the 6, although the real odds should be 6. Ok? Alright. Now imagine that one of the team is slighlty better and one of the teams is slightly worse. City are by many considered favorites for 2017/2018 while Spurs will play away from white hart lane all the season and is generally considered less of a favorite to win EPL this year. So, if City are considered 50% more likely to win the EPL trophy when comparing to Spurs (which would be fair), the odds would change dramatically too. Spurs would now have 9 times the money and City 4 times the money (6 *1.5 and 6/1.5).

Converting real odds to probability, City's odds of 2.87 equals a winning probability of 34,8%. Because 1 (100%) / 2.87 = 0,348. Given that pundits usaully pay out around 95% the real probability (at this time) according to experts is (0,348/95)*100=0,366 or 36,6%.

For Spurs that means they're given 10,5% chance of winning.

Now, this doesn't sound like much but given that ther is around 6 teams that can potentially compete for the title and City etc argually being favorites for a reason.. well, it's pretty fair.

@emo odds are funny in that way, but it's fairly easy to explain. Let's say EPL has 6 serious title contenders and that they all would have the same chance of winning the EPL. Each team would have odds of 6 times the money right? However, adding to that, most bookies apply a win margin so the odds changes according to how people bet, but overall the pay out usually is around 95% (sometimes a bit higher). That means that bookies would probably give an odds of around 5,7 for any given team of the 6, although the real odds should be 6. Ok? Alright. Now imagine that one of the team is slighlty better and one of the teams is slightly worse. City are by many considered favorites for 2017/2018 while Spurs will play away from white hart lane all the season and is generally considered less of a favorite to win EPL this year. So, if City are considered 50% more likely to win the EPL trophy when comparing to Spurs (which would be fair), the odds would change dramatically too. Spurs would now have 9 times the money and City 4 times the money (6 *1.5 and 6/1.5).

Converting real odds to probability, City's odds of 2.87 equals a winning probability of 34,8%. Because 1 (100%) / 2.87 = 0,348. Given that pundits usaully pay out around 95% of the received capital, the real probability (at this time) according to experts is (0,348/95)*100=0,366 or 36,6%.

For Spurs that means they're given 10,5% chance of winning.

Now, this doesn't sound like much but given that there is around 6 teams that can potentially compete for the title and City etc argually being favorites for a reason.. well, it's pretty fair.

@emo odds are funny in that way, but it's fairly easy to explain. Let's say EPL has 6 serious title contenders and that they all would have the same chance of winning the EPL. Each team would have odds of 6 times the money right? However, adding to that, most bookies apply a win margin so the odds changes according to how people bet, but overall the pay out usually is around 95% (sometimes a bit higher). That means that bookies would probably give an odds of around 5,7 for any given team of the 6, although the real odds should be 6. Ok? Alright. Now imagine that one of the team is slighlty better and one of the teams is slightly worse. City are by many considered favorites for 2017/2018 while Spurs will play away from white hart lane all the season and is generally considered less of a favorite to win EPL this year. So, if City are considered 50% more likely to win the EPL trophy when comparing to Spurs (which would be fair), the odds would change dramatically too. Spurs would now have 9 times the money and City 4 times the money (6 *1.5 and 6/1.5).

Converting real odds to probability, City's odds of 2.87 equals a winning probability of 34,8%. Because 1 (100%) / 2.87 = 0,348. Given that pundits usaully pay out around 95% of the received capital, the real probability (at this time) according to experts is (0,348/95)*100=0,366 or 36,6%. Basically the winning margin is the reason to why more people lose on betting than who win. In 1X2 there are 3 outcomes and the odds (or probability actually) added up is less than 1 (or100%). 2,73 in odds would equal the true odds for City's title chances (1/x=0,366).

For Spurs that means they're given 10,5% chance of winning. Now, this doesn't sound like much but given that there is around 6 teams that can potentially compete for the title and City etc argually being favorites for a reason.. well, it's pretty fair and basically means that Spurs would win 1 season out of 10 with the same team or that if they would play the same season 10 times in a multiple universe or something they'd managed to win in one of them.

Odds are high for United because Mourinho doesn't go longer than two seasons without a league title. I think it is fair to say that maybe this might be their year but I think Chelsea won't give it up easily .

@Marcus Sorry mate, but nothing permit you to be sure of that. Anything could happen. It will mostly depend on who they have to deal in their group. :P