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7 years ago
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@croatian
"Didn't Chelsea also barely get point against Arsenal, at home? Didn't you beat Atletico by last second goal (tho you were better - but nobody would care if it ended 1-1)."
They were the better team away for the entire game and they won. What else matters? Atletico isn't as good as they were last year for instance. English teams weren't as good last year as they are now.
Also, odds are pointless? What are you on about? If anything odds are very much important to consider. Believe me. I work with it. The odds are determined by experts together with million of people that bet their hard earned money on what they deem to be the most likely winner,. How is that not relevant?
Furthermore.. had you actually looked at the odds you would have seen that Dynamo Kiev in fact has not better odds than Dortmund, Roma, Monaco and Leizig.. Dortmund at average around 70 etc..
Now, firstly, the odds that you are refering to for Kiev is at 126. How is that better? Secondly, betfair doesn't work as the other betting companies (which is the only one giving them those odds). Had you known anything about how odds work you would have known this.
Lastly, please just compare the odds for United and Monaco. Monaco better than United? Tss. Also notice that PSG are close to being favorites to win it. Tier 2? Don't think so.
@croatian
"Didn't Chelsea also barely get point against Arsenal, at home? Didn't you beat Atletico by last second goal (tho you were better - but nobody would care if it ended 1-1)."
They were the better team away for the entire game and they won. What else matters? Atletico isnät as good as they were last year for instance. English teams weren't as good last year as they are now.
Also, odds are pointless? What are you on about? If anything odds are very much important to consider. Believe me. I work with it. The odds are determined by experts together with million of people that bet their hard earned money on what they deem to be the most liekly winner,. How is that not relevant?
Furthermore.. had you actually looked at the odds you would have seen that Dynamo Kiev in fact has not better odds than Dortmund, Roma, Monaco and Leizig.. Napoli is at average at around 30 times the money to win CL. Dortmund at average around 70.
Now, firstly, the odds that you are refering to for Kiev is at 126. How is that better? Secondly, betfair doesn't work as the other betting companies (which is the only one giving them those odds). Had you known anything about how odds work you would have known this.
2 years ago since first thread. A month ago since that thread got updated and then closed.
In order:
Tier 1
Real
PSG
Bayern
Barca (a bit behind)
Tier 2
Juventus
City
Chelsea
United
Atletico Madrid
Dortmund
Tier 3
Arsenal
Spurs
Roma
Sevilla
Liverpool
Monaco
Tier 4
Napoli
Milan
Porto
RB Leipzig
Inter
Benfica
Schalke
Sporting CP
Leicester
Zenit
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas
Galatasaray
Everton
PSV Einhoven
Basel
Ajax
Feyenoord
Celtic
.some of you said that PSG shouldn't be up there (still think so?) and that Real should be in their own league (still think so?). At this time I'd put Chelsea above Atletico. They're just not as good as a year or two ago. United and City have certainly proved themselves. Will be fun to watch City - Chelsea this week. Bayern is still definatively up there no matter that they lost big to PSG.
Juve in tier 1? Are Juve a better team than Chelsea?
2 years ago since first thread. A month ago since that thread got updated and then closed.
In order:
Tier 1
Real
PSG
Bayern
Barca (a bit behind)
Tier 2
Chelsea
Juventus
City
United
Atletico Madrid
Tier 3
Spurs
Dortmund
Roma
Sevilla
Liverpool
Monaco
Tier 4
Napoli
Milan
Porto
RB Leipzig
Inter
Benfica
Schalke
Sporting CP
Zenit
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas
Galatasaray
Basel
Celtic
.some of you said that PSG shouldn't be up there (still think so?) and that Real should be in their own league (still think so?). At this time I'd put Chelsea above Atletico. They're just not as good as a year or two ago. United and City have certainly proved themselves. Will be fun to watch City - Chelsea this week. Bayern is still definatively up there no matter that they lost big to PSG.
2 years ago since first thread. A month ago since that thread got updated and then closed.
In order:
Tier 1
Real
PSG
Bayern
Barca (a bit behind)
Tier 2
Chelsea
Juventus
City
United
Atletico Madrid
Tier 3
Arsenal
Spurs
Dortmund
Roma
Sevilla
Liverpool
Monaco
Tier 4
Napoli
Milan
Porto
RB Leipzig
Inter
Benfica
Schalke
Sporting CP
Leicester
Zenit
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas
Galatasaray
Everton
Basel
Celtic
.some of you said that PSG shouldn't be up there (still think so?) and that Real should be in their own league (still think so?). At this time I'd put Chelsea above Atletico. They're just not as good as a year or two ago. United and City have certainly proved themselves. Will be fun to watch City - Chelsea this week. Bayern is still definatively up there no matter that they lost big to PSG.
2 years ago since first thread. A month ago since that thread got updated and then closed.
In order:
Tier 1
Real
PSG
Bayern
Barca (a bit behind)
Tier 2
Chelsea
Juventus
City
United
Atletico Madrid
Tier 3
Dortmund
Arsenal
Spurs
Roma
Sevilla
Liverpool
Monaco
Tier 4
Napoli
Milan
Porto
RB Leipzig
Inter
Benfica
Schalke
Sporting CP
Leicester
Zenit
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas
Galatasaray
Everton
Basel
Celtic
.some of you said that PSG shouldn't be up there (still think so?) and that Real should be in their own league (still think so?). At this time I'd put Chelsea above Atletico. They're just not as good as a year or two ago. United and City have certainly proved themselves. Will be fun to watch City - Chelsea this week. Bayern is still definatively up there no matter that they lost big to PSG.
2 years ago since first thread. A month ago since that thread got updated and then closed.
In order:
Tier 1
Real
PSG
Bayern
Barca (a bit behind)
Tier 2
Chelsea
Juventus
City
United
Atletico Madrid
Tier 3
Dortmund
Arsenal
Spurs
Roma
Sevilla
Liverpool
Monaco
Tier 4
Napoli
Milan
Porto
RB Leipzig
Inter
Benfica
Schalke
Sporting CP
Leicester
Zenit
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas
Galatasaray
Everton
PSV Einhoven
Basel
Ajax
Feyenoord
Celtic
.some of you said that PSG shouldn't be up there (still think so?) and that Real should be in their own league (still think so?). At this time I'd put Chelsea above Atletico. They're just not as good as a year or two ago. United and City have certainly proved themselves. Will be fun to watch City - Chelsea this week. Bayern is still definatively up there no matter that they lost big to PSG.
2 years ago since first thread. A month ago since that thread got updated and then closed.
In order:
Tier 1
Real
PSG
Bayern
Barca (a bit behind)
Tier 2
Chelsea
Juventus
City
United
Atletico Madrid
Dortmund
Tier 3
Arsenal
Spurs
Roma
Sevilla
Liverpool
Monaco
Tier 4
Napoli
Milan
Porto
RB Leipzig
Inter
Benfica
Schalke
Sporting CP
Leicester
Zenit
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas
Galatasaray
Everton
PSV Einhoven
Basel
Ajax
Feyenoord
Celtic
.some of you said that PSG shouldn't be up there (still think so?) and that Real should be in their own league (still think so?). At this time I'd put Chelsea above Atletico. They're just not as good as a year or two ago. United and City have certainly proved themselves. Will be fun to watch City - Chelsea this week. Bayern is still definatively up there no matter that they lost big to PSG.
2 years ago since first thread. A month ago since that thread got updated and then closed.
In order:
Tier 1
Real
PSG
Bayern
Barca (a bit behind)
Tier 2
Chelsea
Juventus
City
United
Atletico Madrid
Dortmund
Tier 3
Arsenal
Spurs
Roma
Sevilla
Liverpool
Monaco
Tier 4
Napoli
Milan
Porto
RB Leipzig
Inter
Benfica
Schalke
Sporting CP
Leicester
Zenit
CSKA Moskva
Besiktas
Galatasaray
Everton
PSV Einhoven
Basel
Ajax
Feyenoord
Celtic
.some of you said that PSG shouldn't be up there (still think so?) and that Real should be in their own league (still think so?). At this time I'd put Chelsea above Atletico. They're just not as good as a year or two ago. United and City have certainly proved themselves. Will be fun to watch City - Chelsea this week. Bayern is still definatively up there no matter that they lost big to PSG.
Juve in tier 1? Are Juve a better team than Chelsea?